What does it mean to center students in higher education—and why does democracy depend on it? In this conversation, Christina Katopodis and Jason Hendrickson make a compelling case for transformative teaching as essential democratic practice. Public higher education is infrastructure for democracy, but only when it centers students. Together, we explore what transformative teaching demands: rigorous pedagogical practice, commitment to ongoing learning, and recognition that how we teach is inseparable from the democratic futures we’re building. From syllabus design to classroom exercises, they offer both practical strategies and a fundamental reimagining of higher education’s purpose.
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HIGHLIGHTS
“We are alienated in our own education. How do we go from alienation to authenticity?” – Christina Katopodis
“My dream is a restored faith in education that begins at the beginning and ends with higher education, having education that matters to our students, and where we see difference as an asset” – Christina Katopodis
“We have to remind each other of each other in human ways” – Jason Hendrickson
“Humanities is at the center of rehumanizing where we are at this moment…My dream is the humanistic spirit prevailing again” – Jason Hendrickson
CREDITS
Host: Shelly Eversley, FI Faculty Chair
Guests: Christina Katopodis and Jason Hendrickson
Producers: FI Fellows – Peter Susanszky & Vallerie Matos
Editor: Devanté Duncan
Recorded at CUNY TV in New York City.
RESOURCES
TLH in a Box: Transformative Learning in the Humanities in a Box
CUNY Career Connected Learning
Office of Career and Industry Partnerships:
- https://www.cuny.edu/about/administration/offices/ocip/
- https://www.cuny.edu/about/administration/offices/ocip/students/
NACE: National Association of Colleges & Employers
BOOKS/ARTICLES
The New College Classroom – Cathy N. Davidson & Christina Katopodis
Pedagogy of the Oppressed – Paulo Freire
Teaching to Transgress – bell hooks
Fugitive Pedagogy: Carter G. Woodson and the Art of Black Teaching – Jarvis R. Givens
Schoolishness: Alienated Education and the Quest for Authentic, Joyful Learning – Susan D. Blum
Red Helicopter: Lead Change with Kindness – James Rhee
“Life, Learning, and the Liberal Arts: A Hybrid Contract Grading Model” – Jason Hendrickson
“Practicing the Equitable, Transformative Pedagogy We Preach” – Cathy N. Davidson & Shelly Eversley
10-Day Syllabus Challenge – Christina Katopodis
Theme for English B – Langston Hughes



